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Schlock and Awe: Trump Comes to Denver

By Jeralyn, Section Elections 2016
Posted on Sat Jul 30, 2016 at 02:56:35 PM EST
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Donald Trump came to Denver yesterday. His comments were all schlock, but 6,000 people, expecting to be awed, went to see him.

USA Today has the story, but it has autoplay video so I won't link to it. Among his more absurd comments:

  • He has one of the best memories of anyone in the world
  • If the U.S. elects Hillary, it will turn into another Venezuela
  • He said several times his nomination speech got better TV ratings than Hillary's
  • He didn't mention a single Republican running for office in Colorado (no down--ticket help from him)
  • Ivanka really likes Chelsea, he wishes she didn't, but what are you going to do?

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    Maybe she likes Chelsea (5.00 / 1) (#2)
    by CoralGables on Sat Jul 30, 2016 at 03:49:21 PM EST
    because she's a Democrat. One of the reasons given why Ivanka didn't vote for her father in the NY primary was she waited past the deadline to switch parties in a closed primary state.

    friends are friends (none / 0) (#3)
    by linea on Sat Jul 30, 2016 at 04:10:48 PM EST
    none of my friendships are based on politics.

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    Trump is going to need to deliver more schlock (5.00 / 1) (#6)
    by CoralGables on Sat Jul 30, 2016 at 04:19:46 PM EST
    if the bi-partisan RABA Research poll is correct. After the GOP Convention they had Clinton at +5. After the Dem Convention they have Clinton at +15.

    May explain why Trump even badmouthed the Fire Marshall in Denver yesterday. Is there no one he won't attempt to degrade?

    Expect every polling outfit in the country to have a national poll coming out in the coming week.

    I do not remember ever (none / 0) (#11)
    by CaptHowdy on Sat Jul 30, 2016 at 06:50:59 PM EST
    Seeing two political conventions more likely to make a difference in poll numbers.  Each in opposite directions.  

    Even the '92 Buchanan terd was less smelly.

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    92 RNC (none / 0) (#27)
    by The Addams Family on Sat Jul 30, 2016 at 10:21:35 PM EST
    aka "The Tourette's Convention," with speakers' hateful outbursts interrupting their highfalutin' speechifying at regular if seemingly random intervals

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    One of the best memories: (5.00 / 3) (#7)
    by KeysDan on Sat Jul 30, 2016 at 05:16:25 PM EST
    Trump on Tim Kaine: "Her running mate, Tim Kaine, who by the way did a terrible job in New Jersey, first act he did in New Jersey was asked for a $4 billion tax increase, and he was not very popular in New Jersey, and he still isn't.

    Now, maybe he was mixing up governors, Tim Kaine for Tom Keane (pronounced Kaine), or mixing up the states, New Jersey for Virginia.  But, then complicating the sorting out, is that the big tax increase was requested in New Jersey by a non-Kaine governor, Jim Florio, in 1990, who did become unpopular as a result.  He should stick to easier names and places--Putin and Russia.

    i can't wait for the debates (none / 0) (#17)
    by The Addams Family on Sat Jul 30, 2016 at 07:45:25 PM EST


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    Yeah.. (none / 0) (#18)
    by jondee on Sat Jul 30, 2016 at 07:53:56 PM EST
    Can you imagine?

    He won't dial it down or stick to the script, because nobody tells Donald Trump to dial it down and stick to the script.

    Also, I think a part of him likes to play with idea "how far can I go and they'll still love me?". He already intimated that when he made that comment about shooting someone and none of his supporters caring.

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    TPM 3 hours ago (none / 0) (#19)
    by CaptHowdy on Sat Jul 30, 2016 at 08:02:08 PM EST

    Donald Trump gave his first hint last night that he might try to get out of the Fall presidential debates. But I'd thought for months that he'd likely try to get out of them. I think he will be at a steep strategic and tactical disadvantage in any debate with Hillary Clinton - a point I'll expand on later. But from thinking he'd try to get out of the debates, I wasn't clear how he'd do it without facing crushingly bad publicity and exposure as a coward. The latter is something that cuts apart everything his campaign is based on. A few weeks ago, I figured out what I suspect that strategy will be.

      As usual, Hillary & the Dems are trying to rig the debates so 2 are up against major NFL games. Same as last time w/ Bernie. Unacceptable!  -- Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) July 30, 2016  

    The requirement is simple: get out of the debates, make them not happen without seeming to be the one who's running away or tanking them. Here's how. I suspect Trump will start claiming that that the process is "rigged" because Gary Johnson and Jill Stein aren't included. For better or worse (I think better), the debate commission rules are crystal clear: You need to hit 15% support in a certain number of major polls to be included. It's highly unlikely Johnson will meet that threshold; it's almost impossible that Stein will. Inclusion over exclusion has an inherent logic to it if it's obviously self-serving and not appropriate in this case. So I think Trump will find this a comfortable position from which to attack the debates themselves."

    LINK


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    Maybe, let Trump (none / 0) (#46)
    by KeysDan on Sun Jul 31, 2016 at 11:29:00 AM EST
    continue to rig  himself out on the limb of the NFL conflicts, and, then, the Clinton Campaign can request that the Presidential Commission on Debates shift the dates, by a day.  Trump's flimsy argument is punctured, requiring yet another silly excuse or the debate.

     My guess is that there will be debates, and this is another media grab and a way to divert from the the emptiness of his campaign and the fullness of the Clinton campaign.

    If Trump contorts himself out of the debates, it will not matter to his followers, they will swallow whatever he says.  But, it will be devastating for him with thinking voters.

      Hard to shake off criticisms--- if he is afraid to debate Mrs. Clinton, how would he stand up to Putin, or Kim jung un, or--oh,-never-mind, these are his buddies, because they think he is great and he likes authoritarian figures, as he imagines himself.   And, maybe business partners.

     He would only be afraid to debate an ally.  And, of course, he would hate to be seen as competing for a job with a woman. And, knowing he will do so bigly.

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    If I was Hillary (5.00 / 1) (#47)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun Jul 31, 2016 at 11:34:57 AM EST
    I would say

    Anytime anyplace any moderator.  As long as it's one on one.

    That's what I would do.

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    Let's hope it doesn't (none / 0) (#24)
    by sallywally on Sat Jul 30, 2016 at 09:53:35 PM EST
    come to that. I'm beginning to wonder if it's possible.

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    i.e., shooting someone.... (none / 0) (#25)
    by sallywally on Sat Jul 30, 2016 at 09:54:49 PM EST


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    You may have to wait in perpetuity. (none / 0) (#34)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Sun Jul 31, 2016 at 12:38:04 AM EST
    To be quite honest, I think Trump will do everything he can to duck them. He'll be at an extraordinary tactical disadvantage against someone who's as incredibly well-versed in policy development as Hillary Clinton. And so, he's already complaining about the proposed debate schedule, claiming the he's received a complaint letter from the NFL because two debates are opposite major games. And for its part, the NFL denies ever making such a complaint, in writing or otherwise.

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    Trump is, apparently, (5.00 / 2) (#35)
    by desertswine on Sun Jul 31, 2016 at 02:06:36 AM EST
    a pathological liar.

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    Say what you have to say (none / 0) (#40)
    by jondee on Sun Jul 31, 2016 at 08:03:15 AM EST
    in order to win..

    It seems to be the unofficial conservative motto for the last few decades and it filters down to Fox News and talk radio and internet trolls.

    They're doing God's work, so the useful lie becomes a necessary evil and He understands.

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    And Gen. Allen (5.00 / 1) (#8)
    by MKS on Sat Jul 30, 2016 at 05:48:16 PM EST
    He apparently got the crowed to condemn Gen. Allen.

    He wants to be Commander in Chief and he mocks a Gold Star mother?

     Despicable does not even begin to cover this sociopathic narcissist.

    General Allen has really had a tough (5.00 / 1) (#28)
    by Militarytracy on Sat Jul 30, 2016 at 10:22:54 PM EST
    Dedicated GO! I tend to view Marines as fanatics, and often have to admit that the sane do exist among them occassionally.  Allen did everything he could after retirement to design the ISIS plan of containment for the Obama administration. In the press his leave taking took place the same time Russia entered the picture. The press is always trying to link the two events, but bullshit bullshit bullshit. Allen was exhausted. Confronting ISIS the way we are...as few boots as possible, it is exhausting work. It's 80 hr work weeks........

    And still, and still Allen endorses four more years of "this status quo" because it's the right thing to do. The right thing isn't for wussies, it isn't for the thin skinned or the poorly disciplined either.

    It's hard. It sucks. Nobody makes T-shirts memeing your situation, nobody wants your autograph, and slaves can't be fired. It was a horribly low reward time for Allen and he'd do it again because it's the only way it can be done.

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    the comment you are replying to (none / 0) (#32)
    by Jeralyn on Sun Jul 31, 2016 at 12:03:48 AM EST
    was deleted for potentially libelous name-calling as to Trump. Not allowed here.

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    Trump was criticized so harshly (5.00 / 1) (#21)
    by MKS on Sat Jul 30, 2016 at 09:23:02 PM EST
    at the Democratic Convention that he is disintegrating.

    Attacking Gen. Allen, the local Fire Marshal who rescued him from a stalled elevator, Bloomberg, and the Khans.

    What an ugly, ugly mess of a human being.

    Trump (none / 0) (#43)
    by jbindc on Sun Jul 31, 2016 at 09:15:11 AM EST
    Likes to win. During the primary he had almost weekly wins - when he didn't, he'd say something outrageous. He hasn't had a "win" in a few weeks - between the end of the primaries, the disastrous running mate roll out, the convention that was a horror show to many, and now the positive and strong messages coming from the DNC, he has to get more and more outrageous.

    During the primaries, his outrageous statements were "wins" because 1) most people wanted Cruz and Rubio taken down and Trump was doing that, and 2) the media didn't take him seriously enough while this was going on - thinking, "Oh, one of these guys / the party will come through in the end and he won't be the nominee."  I think the media are now realizing, this is real, and they are not being quite as accommodating with his BS and he hates it.

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    Maher on Hillary's path to victory (5.00 / 1) (#22)
    by CaptHowdy on Sat Jul 30, 2016 at 09:36:46 PM EST
    (I was going to put this in the open but it non-election.  And this is about Donald too)

    since half the country believes she is a cartoon villain, EMBRACE IT!  Become NOTORIOUS HRC!!

    Very funny

    Annnd (none / 0) (#23)
    by CaptHowdy on Sat Jul 30, 2016 at 09:38:46 PM EST
    I screwed up the link

    TRY THIS ONE

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    She can join (none / 0) (#26)
    by sallywally on Sat Jul 30, 2016 at 09:56:15 PM EST
    The Notorious RBG!

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    I loved it (none / 0) (#29)
    by Militarytracy on Sat Jul 30, 2016 at 10:26:42 PM EST
    And after seeing some bull$hit FB posts that seemed soooo misogynistic, I don't know if I fear myself or I fear my time has come.

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    A Real Scholar Says Trump Makes Some Good Points (5.00 / 2) (#30)
    by RickyJim on Sat Jul 30, 2016 at 10:59:35 PM EST
    Prof. Stephen Cohen says Trump is trying to prevent a new cold war with Russia and questions what NATO's current mission should be.  He says there is no evidence that Putin has any intention of taking possession of the Baltic states. Link

    Stephen Cohen is no right wing troll (none / 0) (#39)
    by jondee on Sun Jul 31, 2016 at 07:15:08 AM EST
    he's married to The Nation editer Katrina vanden Heuval.

    "We're approaching a Cuban Missile Crisis level nuclear confrontation with Russia, and there is absolutely no discussion, no debate, about this in the American media"

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    If Hillary and her people (5.00 / 3) (#42)
    by jondee on Sun Jul 31, 2016 at 08:25:41 AM EST
    don't watch it, she could get sucked into being portrayed as the Hawk who wants to ratchet up a new Cold War, with all this Putin Putin Putin the Great Satan hysteria that seems to be in the air..

    And there goes a not-insignificant number of lesser-of-two-evils voters.

    That's just the ugly facts of the situation.

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    Debate Continues on NYTimes (5.00 / 1) (#48)
    by RickyJim on Sun Jul 31, 2016 at 11:43:54 AM EST
    In opposition to the views expressed by Cohen/Trump, the Hillary Clinton/Neocon point of view is given by former ambassador to Russia Michael McFaul in an oped.  However the comments section has plenty who take the C/T position.

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    apparenly the author believes (none / 0) (#51)
    by linea on Sun Jul 31, 2016 at 01:43:06 PM EST
    anyone who is not a rabid neocon = isolationist

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    You bein' hyperbolic (none / 0) (#74)
    by FreakyBeaky on Sun Jul 31, 2016 at 07:20:24 PM EST
    This ain't close to the Cuban Missile Crisis.

    Russia has a major strategic problem that we in the US have never taken proper account of; its borders cannot be defended. Its only strategy is to trade space for time, or, as Catherine the Great is said to have said, "The only way I can defend my borders is to extend them."

    This is highly problematic for Russia's neighbors. Ask any of them.

    The point being it is very unclear to me that the US is starting Cold War II or that disbanding NATO is a good move. (Expanding NATO as far as we have maybe wasn't the best move either but what's done is done)


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    New PPP Poll--Hillary by 5 (5.00 / 2) (#31)
    by MKS on Sat Jul 30, 2016 at 11:06:51 PM EST
    And her favorability rating up by 9.  Only -6 now.

    The undecideds by 2-1 give Obama a favorable approval rating.  So, PPP concludes, Hillary's lead can improve.

    Obama cracked 51% of the popular vote (none / 0) (#44)
    by Militarytracy on Sun Jul 31, 2016 at 09:29:18 AM EST
    Twice. Hadn't been done since Eisenhower. I think the final count in this election is going to set new records.

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    not to be a downer (none / 0) (#86)
    by BackFromOhio on Mon Aug 01, 2016 at 09:19:15 PM EST
    but I checked the details of the poll and found that 63% of respondents were women; so the poll is probably somewhat slanted in Hillary's favor.  I, too, am sure she got quite a bounce, I am just trying to be cautiously optimistic.

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    The Dems need to hire this guy (5.00 / 1) (#45)
    by smott on Sun Jul 31, 2016 at 09:55:32 AM EST
    Khizr Khan - on Trump's back-off statement....

    "What he said originally -- that defines him . . . People are upset with him. He realizes, and his advisers feel that [his original statement] was a stupid mistake. That proves that this person is void of empathy. He is unfit for the stewardship of this great country. You think he will empathize with this country, with the suffering of this country's poor people? He showed his true colors when he disrespected this country's most honorable mother... all the snake oil he is selling, and my patriotic, decent Americans are falling for that. Republicans are falling for that. And I can only appeal to them. Reconsider. Repudiate. It's a moral obligation. A person void of empathy for the people he wishes to lead cannot be trusted with that leadership. To vote is a trust. And it cannot be placed in wrong hands."

    In response to Trump's attack on his wife, Khan said the Republican nominee's words were "typical of a person without a soul."

    i dont know why this is a big deal (1.50 / 2) (#53)
    by linea on Sun Jul 31, 2016 at 02:09:42 PM EST
    i watched the full 6-minute kahn speech on youtube.

    personally, im not fond of parents leveraging the death of their child to score political points or to make overtly partisan political speechs. he concluded by saying, "vote for... hillary clinton"

    time to queue the benghazi moms against hillary?

    "Not fond"? (5.00 / 1) (#62)
    by Yman on Sun Jul 31, 2016 at 03:39:40 PM EST
    That's a shame.

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    I would tell you (5.00 / 1) (#63)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun Jul 31, 2016 at 03:42:46 PM EST
    What "some people feel" about that comment.

    But it would be deleted.

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    what's wrong with (1.50 / 2) (#65)
    by linea on Sun Jul 31, 2016 at 04:05:49 PM EST
    not being fond of 'rents using dead children to score political points? seems rather arbitrary to blame trump for a soldier dying in iraq in 2004. it wasnt his war.

    trump could line up a dozen grieving 'rents to say, "my son/daughter was killed in iraq in 2004 fighting terrorists; in a war hillary voted for. hillary is a war-monger who's bad decidions cost the lives of other people's children."

    a game of duelling grieving 'rents isnt something i want to see.  apparently some people here are all-in for that sort of distasteful thing. im not.


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    You say you watched the Khans' entire (5.00 / 8) (#70)
    by Peter G on Sun Jul 31, 2016 at 06:05:00 PM EST
    6-minute statement, yet you criticize them on the basis that it is "rather arbitrary to blame Trump for a soldier dying in Iraq in 2004. It wasn't his war." Did you happen to notice that nowhere in that statement did they ever once criticize Trump on that basis? The disastrous decision of G.W.Bush to start a war in Iraq would be an entirely different discussion, which I wish the Democrats would pursue. The Khans never once said or implied they thought Trump was responsible for their son's death. They criticized him for blaming all members of a major, world-wide religion for the violent extremism of a minority of self-proclaimed adherents. They suggested that such class-based policies would have kept them from immigrating (and thus resulted in their son's not have been able to serve in the U.S. military, as he chose to do, and where he showed exceptional valor). They harshly (and properly) labeled Trump's proposed policies on this subject as contrary to American values, as expressed in our Constitution. I lay out their point for you here step by step, since you appear to have missed it, despite having supposedly listened to them speak.

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    It wasn't anyone's war, except GWB (5.00 / 1) (#78)
    by Yman on Sun Jul 31, 2016 at 08:27:08 PM EST
    But that's not the point, and your accusation against the Kahns is a lie and another slur against them.  They didn't blame Trump for their son's death.   The reason they were up there in the first was to answer Trump's attack on Muslims.   To point out that his proposed bam on all Muslims would affect ALL Muslims,  including American war heroes.  The fact that you don't like it or think it's "distasteful" is just something you'll have to deal with.

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    It was OUR war (5.00 / 1) (#84)
    by Dadler on Mon Aug 01, 2016 at 09:21:07 AM EST
    OUR congress, almost to a member, decided to turn off their critical brains and act like malevolent sheep. Saying it was ALL Dubya's war is the kind of thing that keeps the Democratic Party an atrophied, unprincipled, corporate blowj*bbing, useless to the average working person entity. I, for one, along with millions of others, did our free American homework, recognized the lies for what they were, and marched in the street. Congress, certainly, had NO excuse. Except fawning cowardice.


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    Just Wondering (none / 0) (#80)
    by RickyJim on Sun Jul 31, 2016 at 08:35:40 PM EST
    Has Trump said anything about the internment of people of Japanese descent during WWII?  One might think he views that as some sort of model.

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    Yes, he has. (5.00 / 1) (#81)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Sun Jul 31, 2016 at 09:16:42 PM EST
    LINK.

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    Oy (none / 0) (#82)
    by Yman on Sun Jul 31, 2016 at 10:03:20 PM EST
    The only thing surprising about his answer is that it wasn't a 100%, unqualified "He//, yeah!".

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    I believe the point (none / 0) (#67)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun Jul 31, 2016 at 04:26:08 PM EST
    Which you are missing, is Donalds rhetorical war on Muslims.  His wish to ban them from entering the country.  The question has been asked before - how could he be the commander in chief of a military has has many Muslims in it.

    There is it being asked by the "rents" of one who died for the country.


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    You really need to pay closer attention. (5.00 / 7) (#68)
    by Donald from Hawaii on Sun Jul 31, 2016 at 04:56:39 PM EST
    linea: "time to queue the benghazi moms against hillary?"

    Either that, or you have a very short attention span that needs work, because the GOP already did at its own convention in Cleveland. And one of those "Benghazi mothers," Patricia Smith, took to the podium to call for Hillary Clinton to be arrested and imprisoned for the death of her son Sean, to the cheers and delight of thousands of Republican delegates.

    Yet we haven't seen Mrs. Clinton (or Democrats generally) publicly berate, insult and attack Mrs. Smith, have we?

    Trump's problem is that while he and the Republicans certainly love to sow an ill wind, they sure have trouble coping with the resultant whirlwind that blows back upon them.

    Aloha.

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    Malcolm Nance (none / 0) (#59)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun Jul 31, 2016 at 03:36:00 PM EST
    Combat veteran and counter-terrorism expert Malcolm Nance had some choice words for conservative commentator Heidi Harris on Saturday morning.

    The two were discussing GOP presidential nominee Donald Trump's response to a fallen Muslim-American war hero's parents on host Joy Reid's show, AM Joy. Khizr Khan, the father of U.S. Army Capt. Humayun Khan, who died saving the lives of his fellow soldiers in Iraq, spoke out against Trump for his anti-Muslim rhetoric at the Democratic National Convention this week.
    ...
    Nance on Saturday said it's time for pro-Trump conservatives "who think this is a black, white, political or Muslim issue need to just, as we say in the military, sierra tango foxtrot uniform, and just keep their opinions to themselves and revel in the fact that we are all learning a great lesson about how wonderful this country is."

    Sierra tango foxtrot uniform is NATO phonetic alphabet standing for STFU, or "shut the f*ck up."

    Harris broke in saying she isn't the person who denigrated the Khan family, and the two started talking over each other, with Nance saying, "This person has given far more than you will ever give for the rest of your life, and I am saying that to you as a combat veteran, so I don't want to hear it."



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    BTW - Apartments from criticizing the Kahns (none / 0) (#64)
    by Yman on Sun Jul 31, 2016 at 03:45:38 PM EST
    ... you seriously don't understand why this is "such a big deal"?  Trump, attacking the parents of a war hero?  The guy who suggested Mrs. Kahn want permitted to speak because she's a Muslim?  The guy who got several deferments during Vietnam but who attacked John McCain/POWS?  The guy who compared their heroism to his heroics in avoiding STDS in the 80s?.

    Oy.

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    isnt that a different issue? (1.00 / 2) (#66)
    by linea on Sun Jul 31, 2016 at 04:18:43 PM EST
    i did not give any opinion on the issue of "Trump, attacking the parents of a war hero." i gave my opinion on the use of grieving 'rents to score poliical points. i dont like it.  

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    I see this differently. (5.00 / 2) (#75)
    by JanaM on Sun Jul 31, 2016 at 07:53:31 PM EST
    I see this as parents defending their son in the face blind bigotry against Muslims as expressed by Trump. Parents speaking because their son cannot.

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    I'M SORRY (none / 0) (#83)
    by linea on Mon Aug 01, 2016 at 12:36:04 AM EST
    i didnt mean to get eveybody upset.

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    Not about being "upset" (5.00 / 1) (#85)
    by CaptHowdy on Mon Aug 01, 2016 at 09:26:12 AM EST
    We disagree.  We said so.  It's what we do.   Speaking only for myself.  

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    It's the same issue (5.00 / 2) (#79)
    by Yman on Sun Jul 31, 2016 at 08:30:12 PM EST
    It's Trump'so bigoted attacks on Muslims and hypocritical attacks on the Kahns.  Not to mention his laughable claims of "sacrifice".

    If you don't like it.

    Oh, .... well.

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    Been there, done that. (none / 0) (#69)
    by Chuck0 on Sun Jul 31, 2016 at 05:59:35 PM EST
    See RNC footage, Cleveland, OH (Patricia Smith).

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    true (none / 0) (#1)
    by linea on Sat Jul 30, 2016 at 03:44:55 PM EST
    "[We're] absolutely [friends]," the 36-year-old told Extra on Thursday, July 28. "It has nothing to do with politics. We were friends before this election; we'll be friends after this election."

    I don't think they wanted him to (none / 0) (#5)
    by TrevorBolder on Sat Jul 30, 2016 at 04:16:44 PM EST
    He didn't mention a single Republican running for office in Colorado (no down--ticket help from him)
    Stupid white people.. (none / 0) (#9)
    by jondee on Sat Jul 30, 2016 at 06:27:12 PM EST
    it's right around the same number that listen to AM talk radio on a regular basis.

    The folks who've been conditioned to yearn for a candidate who pukes from the hip.

    This is really beyond belief (none / 0) (#10)
    by CaptHowdy on Sat Jul 30, 2016 at 06:44:16 PM EST
    I just saw him do this.  I've sacrificed plenty, he says.  I worked very hard.

    Seriously?  Does he even understand the meaning of the word?   Then he try's to smear the mother by saying she wasn't allowed to speak.  Followed by a clip of her on with Lawerence saying she was terrified.  Yeah, no kidding .  Probably unnerving to speak in front of 20,000 or so people live and millions at home.

    Honest to god.  What is wrong with this person.   I really didn't think so at first but I'm really starting to think he a few fries short of a happy meal.  And I'm not being funny.

    I mean, just let it go.  Or say you respect their sacrifice but disagree.  But to actually go after these poor old people who lost their son.  It's literally unbelievable.

    I over heard some conversations about this today in town.  People, white, non college, redneck people, are absolutely horrified by this.

    That btw (none / 0) (#12)
    by CaptHowdy on Sat Jul 30, 2016 at 06:52:21 PM EST
    Was the lead on the Network news which I only saw because I was at my sisters.

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    Typical coverage from VOX (none / 0) (#13)
    by CaptHowdy on Sat Jul 30, 2016 at 07:00:57 PM EST
    Donald Trump's slander of Captain Humayun Khan's family is horrifying, even for Trump
    What kind of person is Donald Trump?



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    It occurred to me (none / 0) (#15)
    by CaptHowdy on Sat Jul 30, 2016 at 07:34:26 PM EST
    That this was possibly a very clever rope-a-dope.  Put the idea out there that he is unstable and can be "baited with a tweet" and then bring out the Khans to bait him.

    And Donald snaps it right up.   I would imagine there are campaign people drinking heavily tonight.

    Could be (5.00 / 1) (#16)
    by MKS on Sat Jul 30, 2016 at 07:40:40 PM EST
    But this guy is getting too close to winning.

    I can only hope the polls really turn against him.

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    MKS, your comment before this (none / 0) (#33)
    by Jeralyn on Sun Jul 31, 2016 at 12:05:41 AM EST
    was deleted for a personal attack on Trump. Please, no name-calling and avoid potentially libelous remarks. There's more than enough other things to criticize about him without that.

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    I wanted to add that in addition to being (5.00 / 4) (#71)
    by Peter G on Sun Jul 31, 2016 at 06:27:50 PM EST
    a master of sarcasm (just ask him), Tr*mp appears also to have a gift for irony:  According to the Wall Street Journal, he said, "While I feel deeply for the loss of his son, Mr. Khan[,] who has never met me, has no right to stand in front of millions of people and claim I have never read the Constitution (which is false) and say many other inaccurate things." My recollection is that the Khans asked rhetorically whether Donald had ever read the Constitution; I don't recall them claiming they knew for a fact that he hadn't. But if indeed Tr*mp is familiar with the Constitution, wouldn't he know that the First Amendment gives the Khans precisely that right? He is welcome to deny their accusation, but to assert they have "no right" to suggest his proposed immigration policies with regard to Muslim families like theirs are inconsistent with the Constitution actually tends to confirm their charge.

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    I love Tr@mp (5.00 / 1) (#72)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun Jul 31, 2016 at 06:33:18 PM EST
    As a dirty word

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    At the very least (none / 0) (#73)
    by Peter G on Sun Jul 31, 2016 at 06:44:37 PM EST
    its NSFW.

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    Trump reminds me of what Brando (none / 0) (#20)
    by jondee on Sat Jul 30, 2016 at 08:44:58 PM EST
    said about Frank Sinatra: he'd die and go to heavan and then yell at God for making him bald.

    Why no mention of the big rally (none / 0) (#36)
    by Redbrow on Sun Jul 31, 2016 at 02:43:38 AM EST
    Held by Clinton and Cain today?

    Dozens showed up with plenty of room to spare.

    Thousands showed uo for Trump with thousands more turned away.

    I'll mention it :) (5.00 / 5) (#37)
    by ding7777 on Sun Jul 31, 2016 at 06:18:12 AM EST
    Clinton-Kaine rally in Pittsburgh drew an estimated 7,500 people inside the David L. Lawrence Convention Center, and a few thousand outside.

    timesonline

    Mark Cuban, billionaire and Pittsburgh native, using some Pittsburghese, called Trump a jag0ff.

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    Ok, I'll bite ... too :) (5.00 / 2) (#38)
    by Nemi on Sun Jul 31, 2016 at 06:39:30 AM EST
    Bernie Sanders attracted far more people to his rallies than Hillary Clinton did to hers. Still she won!

    And btw it.s Kaine, not (Mc)Cain.

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    some people feel (2.67 / 3) (#52)
    by linea on Sun Jul 31, 2016 at 01:47:29 PM EST
    the dem party nominating process is rigged in favor of party insiders and that in a fair system bernie would have won the nomination.

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    some people feel Bernie (5.00 / 3) (#54)
    by ding7777 on Sun Jul 31, 2016 at 02:28:51 PM EST
    rigged the system (temporarily changed his party affiliation)to get the perks of a organization he does not belong to - then had the audacity to bad mouth the staff when he only won caucuses

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    So (5.00 / 2) (#55)
    by Ga6thDem on Sun Jul 31, 2016 at 02:42:42 PM EST
    The dnc magically got 16.5 million people to show up to vote?  Let's not forget all the negative press Hillary got while Bernie was never asked a tough question until he blew the NYDN interview or did the dnc make him unable to answer questions? Did the dnc make Bernie voters play beer pong instead of votong?

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    Obviously some people "feel" that way (5.00 / 6) (#56)
    by Peter G on Sun Jul 31, 2016 at 03:14:44 PM EST
    but what people "feel" is entitled to less respect and deference than what people think for logical and evidence-based reasons.

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    "Some people feel ..." (5.00 / 3) (#60)
    by Yman on Sun Jul 31, 2016 at 03:37:06 PM EST
    ... the Easter Bunny is real and global warming is a hoax.

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    Seen on Twitter (none / 0) (#41)
    by Nemi on Sun Jul 31, 2016 at 08:23:38 AM EST
    Rob Beschizza @Beschizza
    Trump: "The gloves come off." :)

    Trump (none / 0) (#49)
    by KeysDan on Sun Jul 31, 2016 at 12:53:22 PM EST
    keeps his gloves, hanging on his car's rear view mirror.

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    The Barack Obama who (none / 0) (#50)
    by KeysDan on Sun Jul 31, 2016 at 01:27:48 PM EST
    has disappointed Maureen Dowd for these past eight years, has disappointed her this week, also too.   In her "Thanks Obama," column of July 31, she finds Obama's 2008 primary comments to be inconsistent with those of his endorsement speech of Hillary in 2016.  And, yet, the president has the audacity of hoping to pass the baton to Mrs. Clinton.  And, to do so, President Obama passed over Joe Biden, and, threw Rahm Emanuel under the us.

    It is not surprising to even a reader who finds tackling her thoughts a form of sport, that things has passed Miss Dowd by, especially, in the field of journalism, or whatever it is that she crafts for that prime space in the NYTimes. But, that warm hug, both in words and action, sent Miss Dowd to the ledge.

    Comforting thought (none / 0) (#57)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun Jul 31, 2016 at 03:18:44 PM EST
    That.

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    She's (none / 0) (#58)
    by Ga6thDem on Sun Jul 31, 2016 at 03:24:52 PM EST
    Gonna make us all think highly of him now. Dowd and the heathers can drive up his numbers more

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    Hard to imagine anything (5.00 / 2) (#61)
    by CaptHowdy on Sun Jul 31, 2016 at 03:38:35 PM EST
    That would give more reflux to Dowdy than President Clinton 2.0.

    {smile}

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    The less said about (none / 0) (#76)
    by JanaM on Sun Jul 31, 2016 at 07:54:46 PM EST
    the likes of Maureen Dowd the better.

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    Good write-ups... (none / 0) (#77)
    by MileHi Hawkeye on Sun Jul 31, 2016 at 08:03:05 PM EST
    of Tr@mp criticizing the Colorado Springs Fire Marshal for doing his job - and for a problem that was caused by his campaign staff. After. mind you, he had to be rescued from an elevator by the CSFD.

    Trump: Springs Fire Marshals "Don't Know What The Hell They're Doing"

    Fire marshal responds after being called out by Trump at UCCS rally.

    Reason eleventy billion why this as@hat is not fit to be President.

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